we've gotten to a point in time which we saw in the last election, more recently we're states like texas and north carolina doing everything they can to suppress the vote of african americans and hispanics we've got a race problem. obviously if you look at that poll it's telling what you say we already know. there are people in power, particularly in the south, in the red states that feel that people of color are taking something from them that they believe inherently belongs to them. >> people don't -- people don't give up power easily. >> do you think college admission should be based on diversity? >> yeah, i mean, i think lots of factors go into diversity. race can be one of them. >> you are in the minority. only 28%. >> should be based on excellence, john. >> the supreme court agrees with me. >> just like the nfl. whoever is the best player plays. and whoever does best academically should be advanced. >> the question i have, one of the things i always say, because i think you can measure diversity in a lot of ways but i think there's an argument to be said the greatest affirmative ac